I am Muslim, Malay, and I love my Salukis!

Hasnul was born and bred in Singapore, did his first degree in Australia, then worked in Singapore for a year until his veterinary studies in Malaysia. He now runs his own small animal practice in Kota Damansara, Selangor DE, Malaysia.

By Hasnul Ismail

“There is not an animal (that lives) on the earth, nor a being that flies on its wings, but (forms part of) communities like you. Nothing have we omitted from the Book, and they (all) shall be gathered to their Lord in the end.” – Qur’an 6:38

My parents are my life, particularly my umi (mother). She showered me with much love and always showed compassion towards animals, even if it was just an ant marching on a leaf. I guess I have had always wanted to be a veterinarian, and alhamdulillah, I have achieved my ultimate ambition.

But I have always wondered if Muslims in general are aware that the Qur’an states that all creation praises God, even if this praise is not expressed in the human language. However, the dog (and even the pig) is provocative and a big taboo — “dogs are haram”, “Malays hate dogs”, and so on are common to hear in South East Asian society. It is definitely degrading to call someone anjing (‘dog’ in Malay).

Like most Malays, I grew up not to like dogs. “Keep away from them” is what we were told to do. “Dirty animals they are!” and “Can’t touch them!” are common refrains. Growing up in suburban Singapore, I had a Eurasian neighbour with Dobermans and Chihuahuas and I was fascinated by the different appearances of dogs. I also remembered having to wash myself with clayey water when another neighbor’s Japanese spitz rubbed against my legs.

It was confusing when some elderly Muslims said, “we cannot touch dogs” while some said “you may if they are dry but never when wet” and even “yes, but not the mouth, nose and other parts that secrete bodily fluids”. For a child, it was indeed confusing and I had doubts about what was correct.

As in most parts of the Malay Archipelago (Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei Darussalam and Indonesia), dogs are culturally considered to be unclean. It has always been a generalization that cats are a common household pet in Malay-Muslim households. We grew up being taught that the Prophet Mohammad s.a.w. loved cats. However, the cat was never mentioned in the Quran.

Dogs or hounds are in fact mentioned in the Quran, and not just once (5:4, 7:176, 18:18, 18:22) and none of these verses indicate that God considers dogs to be dirty animals or that they should be avoided or treated badly. Among the four major schools of thought in Sunni Islam (Hanafi, Hambali, Syafiee and Maliki), the strictest and the most orthodox is Syafiee, to which most Muslims in the Malay Archipelago adhere.

As for hadeeth about dogs being unclean, I personally think that these are important as a code of hygiene, crucial for protecting and promoting human health, while encouraging us to be moderate in rearing pets. If a dog has licked a bowl or vessel (i.e. drunk from it) which is also used by the human owner, then one can follow the hadeeth narrated from Abu Hurayrah:

“If a dog licks the vessel of any one of you, let him wash it seven times, one of which should be with earth.”

With the exception of Imam Maliki, many scholars interpret this is necessary when your hand is impure from touching a dog when it is wet, but not when it is dry.

After consulting religious scholars and teachers, my conclusion with regards to rearing dogs is that it is makruh (discouraged). Yet, I find that many do not have an open mind and still confuse what is taken from the Quran and from the hadeeth.

Today, I run a practice in a busy tropical suburb with veterinary diseases exotic to the western world. I face challenges with pet owners, and the narrow-mindedness of some locals here.

Nonetheless, I have 13 salukis. Salukis are ancient sleek hunting hounds, and I have heard that the Prophet s.a.w. and his sahabat (companions) had used them for hunting purposes. They are called salukis or sloughis in the Arab-speaking world and tazy or tazi among those who speak Turkish, Persian, or Urdu.

Honestly, I am a cat person but salukis are just the perfect hounds for me because of the minimal drool, almost absent dog odour since they do not have a double coat, and their independent nature (like cats!). In any case, I feel that dogs are not meant for everyone, Muslim or not: if you cannot spend time with your dog daily, with regular exercises, then please do not have one.

There are Muslims who mean well and do need a dog to guard their homes and want to portray good animal care, regardless of the kind of pet. But having “handbag pooches”, dyeing their dogs’ fur, and putting on outrageous outfits creates uneasiness among those Muslims who are already against dogs.

Islam is a religion, but to many Malays, Islam is a culture. It is a practice handed down by their fathers, and their fathers before that; something they do out of habit rather than out of their education. I find that the majority of Malay Muslims confuse religion and culture; sometimes they practise religion as if it was part of the Malay culture, or adopt cultural practices (even pre-Islamic Middle-Eastern ones) thinking they are doing an Islamic thing.

“And when it is said to them: “Follow what Allah has sent down,” they say: “Instead, we would follow what we found our fathers on.” Is it so – even though their fathers used to understand nothing, nor had they been on the right path? The parable of those who disbelieve is like the one who hears nothing but a call and cry. They are deaf, dumb and blind, so they sense not.” Qur’an 2: 170-171

Society still remains rigid. Even when evidence is laid out clearly, it is a challenge to change traditional mindsets. I can only hope and du’a that the younger generation will receive a better understanding of this unfortunate taboo that has persisted for centuries. May Allah s.w.t. guide us to the right path, inshallah.

For further reading:
1. Dogs are considered a “taboo” in Malay/Muslim societies, ?or are they? ?(A personal perspective), Hasnul Bin Ismail BSc, DVM.
2. Hukum Kenajisan Anjing: Satu Penilaian Semula (Ruling on the impurity of dogs: a re-evaluation), Hafiz Firdaus Abdullah. (Article only available in Malay)
3. An email discussion between two Muslim veterinarians on dogs in Islam (from the Facebook account of Hasnul Ismail Heshmael Salukis).

48 thoughts on “I am Muslim, Malay, and I love my Salukis!

  1. Interesting perspectives.
    May Knowledge and Guidance be with us as we strive to leave that which is doubtful for that which is certain.

  2. Jazaki-Allah Khayran ya ukhti Sya Taha! Thanx for allowing me to share something on "Open Seam", as we are always learning, and Allah swt knows best.

  3. I so agree with what you hasnul…esp on the part that has been interpreted by all races here…if you are muslim , you are malay…n I hv always stood by my decision…if I were to convert to islam one day…im still chinese n I will not use another name as the name doesn't make us muslim but our beliefs n faith does…not many muslim will try to find out why are dog's fluids haram n not the dogs as stated in the quran…they don't bother to find out as they were taught n told that we are not to challenge the quran n just follow it ; just as how our forefathers did….good on u hasnul..:)

    • Calvin Thoo : What are Hadith? Hadith are narrations originating from the words and deeds of the Islamic prophet Muhammad. Hadith are regarded by traditional schools of jurisprudence as important tools for understanding the Quran and in matters of jurisprudence. Hadith were evaluated and gathered into large collections mostly during the reign of Umar bin Abdul Aziz during the 8th and 9th centuries. These works are referred to in matters of Islamic law and history to this day. The two main denominations of Islam, Shi`ism and Sunnism, have different sets of Hadith collections.

      Clearly the Hadith are very useful guides, but it has to be reminded that hadith are indeed not the word(s) of God. So to clarify any confusion that may arise, we need to interpret those hadith in the light of the Quran, which is the word of God. There is no distinction whether a Muslim is Shi'te or Sunni, comes from any ethnic background as the Quran is the same, and has always been and read in its original text which is Arabic. The Quran does not have any contradiction thus providing more evidence that the Quran far outweighs any other "Islamic" text in terms of validity and logic.

      The Hadith indeed can be challenged. But sadly many confuse what is from the Hadith, and what is from the Quran, and worse, don't even wish to check and clarify.

    • From the beginning, the Hadith literature seems to present its readers with contradictory statements. Whether it was allowable to write down traditions of the Prophet in the early days of Islam is questionable, and probably not fully known. Abu Huraira, a late convert to Islam and a companion of the Prophet, narrated nearly 3,500 Hadith. Abu Huraira, stated in one Hadith that the Prophet, once observing his followers writing down his sayings, gave them a resolute warning to refrain from doing such things. He then cited the evils of making religious books out of the personal sayings of previous Prophets. Finally he told them: "Do you not know that nothing but the writing of books beside the book of God led astray the peoples that were before you?" Even in one Hadith of Abu Huraira, evidently the sayings of the Prophet, compiled before this warning, were heaped together and burned. Reliability of the sources of the Hadith is indeed important, before deciding to follow it, and how consistent the Hadith are with the moral vision of God who speaks in and through the Al-Quran.

    • In a divine religion like Islam, it is indeed very important to make it clear that while setting rules and codes to govern human affairs, it must never let those rules be detached from the realities of life. As Allah says in the Qur’an:

      “God intends every facility for you; He does not want to put to difficulties.” (Surah 2, Verse 185).

      This means that the rules and teachings must not pose a difficulty for its followers. Thus, it is normal to assume that certain benefits, apparent or hidden, are inherent in Shari’a injunctions. Of course, this is apart from the sense of worship that compliance with them implies.

      The dog-issue is often one of the most debatable issues, as indicated that in the verses in the Quran, there was no mention of dogs being unclean. Nonetheless, there are many Prophetic hadiths that warn Muslims about getting into contact with dogs. In fact, some of these hadiths give warnings that going against this rule takes away a sizeable amount of reward from a person’s record (of good deeds) daily. Adding to that is the Prophet’s order for killing the dogs in Medina and the Angel Gabriel’s refusal to enter the Prophet’s house in one of his visits, citing the presence of dog as reason.

      But alongside with this, are many hadiths that call for showing kindness to animals in general, including dogs, and the permissibility of keeping dogs for hunting, guarding, and so forth. It was further reported that some of the Prophet’s companions, were in the habit of keeping animals for farming purposes or even for fun and pleasure.

      So to clarify this confusion, we need to interpret those hadiths in the light of the Quran. The Quran makes it clear that there is no harm in eating animals grabbed by hunting dogs. Furthermore, it’s through the Quran that we get acquainted with the story of the Cave Companions (ahl-ul-khaf) who had with them their dog; this clearly shows that dogs have historically been used for guarding the person and the property of its owners.

      This also indicates that dogs must be treated well they are of the animals referred to in the verse: There is not an animal (that lives) on the earth, nor a being that flies on its wings, but (forms part of) communities like you (Surah 6 Verse 38).

      The implicit message of this verse is that in Islam, the concept of mercy covers humans as well as animals, for Islam accords animals inviolable rights, part of which is to be fed well and not to be subject to torture or ill-treatment. Hence, another hadith in which the Prophet, stated that a woman was doomed to enter Hell because of a cat ‘which she neither fed nor let it eat from the vermin of the earth’.

    • PS: with regards to the "killing of dogs", it was to curb the rabies outbreak in Medina in 7th Century Arabia, and the killing included wolves, foxes, jackals, hyenas which succumbed to rabies.
      Allah swt knows best.

    • Calvin Thoo: With regards to saliva (with respect to sharing bowls with dogs, which people hardly do these days anyway), it's parts and parcel of basic hygiene, dogs have and will always be a scavenging critter (notice why the bone is always associated with a doggie-cartoon???*grin*), they are known to eat all sorts from the environment (but many dog owners are in denial), so in 7th century Arabia, there is NO proper soap and disinfectant, and earth particularly clayey earth, is a good disinfectant (notice why many animals roll themselves on earth??? *grin*). All animals, including humans, have germs in our buccal cavity (mouth washes for humans, otherwise your spouse would holler!!!): so it's practically basic hygiene, and promoting better health care. True the rabies virus in rabid animals (be it dogs, wolves, bears, civet cats, racoons, cats), transmission is via the saliva through an open wound (e.g. bitten by the rabid animal). Allah swt knows best.

    • Also another point to highlight, dogs were an integral part of the lives of pre-Islamic Arabs/Bedouins, even up to the extent, that their dogs were more superior than their wives. To break this strong bondage, firm rules have to be firmly established, then again Allah swt knows best.

    • Jazakallah for the write-up.

      However, I would like to make a clarification for your explanation for the "hadith". They are not mere 'useful guidelines', however Authentic hadiths are in fact actually divine Revelation from Allah, it is one of the two parts of divine Revelation that was revealed to the Prophet (s.a.w) and the other one is the Holy Quran. The difference is that Al-Quran is revelation of the literal words of Allah, while hadiths regarding to Islamic matters are indeed divine revelation shown through the Prophet's words, actions, and approval. The prove is via the surah Al-Najm. "Nor does he speak of his own desire. It is only revealed revelation."

      The authentic hadith cannot be challenged, as much as how the Quran can't be challenged. However, there are many interpretations of the meaning of the hadith, and those interpretation can be challenged (by a knowledgeable person) if a more correct interpretation is found. However, the hadith regarding personal aspect of the Prophet's likes and dislikes, etc. not relating to the matters of the religion are his own. Wallahualam.


    • Dear Calvin, Mabruk on your reversion to Islam.

      “Indeed, [O Muhammad], you do not guide whom you like, but Allah guides whom He wills. And He is most knowing of the [rightly] guided.”

      Al Qasas, 56

  4. Matt..i wont change my name for the sakes of getting the bumi status..that wud not be right….
    Hasnul..its quite funny that u said abt the saliva being unhygienic and all..as i did ask God abt it…and guess what..u might think its funny and me telling fibs but i actually got an answer from him one morning ,out of the blue..regarding this topic…and he said something like during his days..rabies were rampant , killing lots of people as there wasnt any cure then..so he made the saliva and fluids of the dogs haram because he loved his people too much…
    As result of that dream ( to my surprise) , i begin to have more n more interest in the religion..but then again..u already know that i m more “malay than chinese”lol..
    So i guess..yeah..God is great n He really answer our queries and prayers in different ways…:)

  5. Excellent write up Hasnul for better understanding to the malays, so they know to differentiate between Islam and culture. May Allah bless you always, aameen

  6. ! WoW I've been hearing and seeing…this is another amazement to me…yeap.there are muslim have go into literature and said that its isn't wrong to keep dogs ;; this could perhaps TRUE where majority refuse to see perhaps overly fanatic over the matter…i once saw a documentory about Dubai…so a family life was told…then in the picture I saw their children actually playing with the dogie pet poodle! Then I think hey..isn't Dubai a Muslim nations? Yes it is! so0….you see Muslim can indeed keep dogs…perhaps one have to ask If we believe there is a Creator The Most high..why on earth he made Dogs one of His animals creation..and then turn out to be forbidden to touch? All his creation is For the Good to Humans and brings Joy at the same time if we don't abuse them…If one haven't came to know,, Dogs Indeed Is Man's Best Friends" you can't find this attributes In humans "Loyalty". Humans therefore learn from such lowly Creature.. Good For you! Hasnul….you realize..:) Hope more too…."").

    • Ms Foo, I would like to clarify that in order to understand Islam, we don't see what the Muslims do but what the Quran and Authentic Hadith says. There are many Muslims who does something against Islamic teachings such as drinking alcohol, not wearing hijab, doing crimes etc, but their acts can't represent what Islam actually is.

      However keeping dogs as pets in Islam is allowable only for a certain reason, which includes as guard-dogs, farming, hunting and herding. Keeping them as pets is actually not permissible in Islam. There are many things that Allah have created that he also made impermissible to human beings, such as the plant (some say fruit) that Adam ate in heaven. Why? What is wrong with eating a plant (fruit)? The answer is, God made it purposely as a test to us whether we want to follow what He told us, or to follow our own desires. Whether we are really obedient, or not.

      Now, Allah created dogs as highly useful creatures, loyal, obedient, cute etc. However Allah forbid us to keep them as pets, except to use them in special ways only. However there is no harm in doing research to find out the scientific reasons, i.e. maybe it will effect health etc. Muslims believe in God and trust Him with His knowledge and wisdom and although we do not know why really He forbids us, but we do it anyway because we want to please Allah.

      If Allah is pleased with the obedient human, He will reward us by sending us to Heaven where EVERYTHING is made halal, and in heaven we are allowed to have what we are not allowed in the lifetime. Even in heaven we are allowed to drink wine, wear anything we like, and keep as many dogs as we want from every breed in the world, plus the breed that humans never saw before. Only happiness, and given everything we want for free forever.

      That is why true Muslims don't mind that we are not allowed to so many good things in this world, because we know that in heaven we will get it and it will be millions of times better.

    • oh dear;/ dahlia..when you mention true islam thats means to say there's a false one , just like Jesus said "you will see the weeds and wheats grow together this both plants symbolize True and false christians as well,, they look very similar ,,as plants,,in between the line people find it hard to distinguish,, well Hasnul well know the your Holy words too right? Im not muslim as you can see,,But I slowly see quite a Number of Malays keep dogs as pet nowadays…so there could be a sound reason for them to proceed…well in the Holy words there are the Old testement and New,,In the New…God have declared what is unclean…are No longer view unclean anymore…however there are some still holding On to the Old Law Or sayings i suppose…'')…..to me..no matter how religious a person may be… applying,,doing good is important,, just saying is no use….some people say that they are faith embracer but in Behind they do many unclean things then You and I guess "Only God Knows".
      Well its good we have open views and opinions… Dahlia..nice to hear from you…"Cheers"

    • Salam,

      Yes I would also agree with regards to understanding Islam, is NOT and NEVER by looking at what Muslims do, but instead, please do read the Quran (in a language that is most comfortable for you to understand) and refer to the authentic hadeeth, and ask questions to as many, not just one knowledgeable scholar if ever in doubt, or if one who wishes to clarify issues in relating to religion and ways of life.

      The intention of the article was NEVER to encourage Muslims (or anyone) to have dogs as pets as dogs are not meant for everyone, and they are there for a purpose. It was more to let us understand this animal better from the cultural taboos it has unfortunately befallen into. As Muslims, it is an important commitment whence one decided to have a pet, as it becomes a huge responsibility, to full fill the pet's needs may it be a hamster to a donkey, but in moderation, never exceeding or over-loving one-being to the extremes.

      Without a doubt, dogs are very intelligent animals, and I have always wondered that may be the reason why it was the chosen animal to be with the men in the cave, in Surah Al-Kahf (surah 18), but Allah s.w.t. knows best. I am one of those who would not wave the western man's ideas and ideologies (e.g. dogs are man's best friend), as for me to be modern in this modern world we live in, does not mean we have to be westernised.

      For me, my salukis, are part of the household, to guard the house, and to allow me to have a fit lifestyle with my daily jogging routines. I am still more fond of cats than to dogs in general, and true enough, am not fond of the dogs' drool and odour which alhamdulillah is at its utter minimal in salukis. My dream is have my own land with flocks of goats, while having my salukis to help herd them as well, inshallah some day.

      Allah s.w.t. knows best.

    • Nice to know you too, Ms. Foo Ju Ju. Since you have raised the question whether there is a 'false' or 'true' Islam, I must say that there is only ONE true Islam, only the followers who are the one who are divided and chooses falsehood instead. The true Islam is the one that purely follows the Al-Quran and authentic Hadith, and the false comes from misinterpretation, disobedience, and wrong things that people created but they called Islam.

      People always think that since Muslims do it, it must be from Islam. However, it is actually not. This have to be made clear, especially to non-Muslims who ALWAYS get this confused, not only you. Since you now see that many Malays keep dogs as pets, naturally you did feel that it is actually because Islam permits it. I'm not judging anyone, but I'm saying this to make the point clear, but in reality those Muslims are the one who are not following Islamic teachings by breaking the rules, just like Muslims who drinks alcohol but in reality alcohol is not permitted but they do it anyway. They can give 1001 explanations and excuses, but what is wrong is still wrong, what is right is still right.

      And another important note to clarify to you is, not all Muslims understand or know the teachings of Islam well. Not everybody knows all their Quran and authentic hadith well, and not all follow what Islam really teaches well. Which is a sad thing. This is another reason why you should not judge Islam according to what Malays or Arabs or Indonesians or Pakistanis do. Because they might not follow Islam although they are Muslims themselves.

      Being kind to all Allah's creatures, including dogs and pigs, is a big part of Islamic teaching. We are told to treat them with respect and kindness. To prove this, there is a story about a prostitute, who is known to be a woman of sin, but due to her kindness was promised heaven. She did this by simply fetching water in the well for a thirsty dog. See how important is the act of being kind to animals in Islam, and how many people do the exact opposite of what Islam really teaches?

      I'm sorry to hear about people who treat dogs cruelty due to their own ignorance and stupidity. Those people should repent and ask for forgiveness, and if not, Allah will surely give them His punishment in the hereafter, and His punishment is very very very severe. However, Allah is All Merciful, and Forgiving, and He will forgive those who sincerely repent, alhamdulillah.

      You also said that the New Testament made permissible what the Old Testament made impermissible, which is true. This requires a long discussion so I won't do it here. However, as Muslims we have the last and final testament, the Quran. Simply put, to explain this situation is that the Old and the New Testaments are like the draft copies, the rulings there required many amendments and adjustments. However the Quran is the finalised version. So, there is not going to be anymore adjustments to it until the end of days.

      I also would like to invite you to read the Quran (translation) yourself. See that there is many similarities in the Quran with the Bible, you will be amazed. The Quran is not for Muslims only, it is for everyone.

    • Salam, BTW I do adore dogs and Saluki look like a very cool breed, masyaa Allah. Whenever I come across the neighbour's dogs, my heart would melt just by looking at them. I would love to have a dog as a pet, maybe in Heaven, insyaa Allah :) May Allah get us there, ameen.

    • Jazaki-Allah khayran for your reply ya ukhti Dahlia. What happened to Miss Foo's comment, I thought I just read it about an hour plus ago, but it went missing…….

      Anyway I totally agree with you, ya ukhti Dahlia, animal abuse is actually everywhere, and as a veterinarian, and running a clinic, it is not restricted to a particular group of people, it is found in all societies, and also from people who claim to "love" animals and yet they dump their pets in shelters in the end.

      Yes I must also stress that the saluki is NOT even suitable for the general dog people, as they behave like cats, do not like to be cooped up in kennels all day long, and require their daily exercise and LOL………..sleep all day until it's time for their "hunting" expedition. Once in a pack, they will even hunt down other non-saluki dogs. It's a hunting trait that man have selected saluki/tazy and other ancient sighthounds from the harsh desert/hilly environment. I personally feel the saluki/tazi is what the hunting beast/hound in Surah Al Maeda verse 4, would refer to.

      I also like to add, true, there are people who say they are Muslims, and rear dogs as pets but they overdo it, and sadly as our society gets more affluent, it is sadly becoming a trend, and sometimes it gets way overboard. Rescuing them is a blessing, and keeping them for a purpose is beneficial , but by treating them (including all animals not restricting to dogs alone) more than you treat your family, or/and ignoring charity is something that the religion forbids. The Pet industry is a booming one, from beauty parlours and spas for dogs and cats to 5-star kennels/catteries, and yet the shelter is surging with unwanted pets. It is sad when you think about it.

      With regards to the scriptures in the Bible, that's a huge scope of discussion, which I don't think it's appropriate here, but yes the Quran, as we Muslims believe, is the Last & Final Testament, and there are no different versions of the Quran: nothing removed nothing new added, it remains solely in classical Arabic, with the surah and verses remaining the same as how it has always been: preserved. The Quran may come with translations/interpretations in various languages, but still the classical Arabic one is still the authentic Quran.

      This is an interesting YouTube video of the preserved Quran:

    • Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "While a man was walking on his way he became extremely thirsty. He found a well, he went down into it to drink water. Upon leaving it, he saw a dog which was panting out of thirst. His tongue was lolling out and he was eating moist earth from extreme thirst. The man thought to himself: `This dog is extremely thirsty as I was.' So he descended into the well, filled up his leather sock with water, and holding it in his teeth, climbed up and quenched the thirst of the dog. Allah appreciated his action and forgave his sins". The Companions asked: "Shall we be rewarded for showing kindness to the animals also?'' He (PBUH) said, "A reward is given in connection with every living creature".
      [Al-Bukhari and Muslim].
      In the narration of Al-Bukhari, the Prophet (PBUH) is reported to have said: "Allah forgave him in appreciation of this act and admitted him to Jannah".
      Another narration says: "Once a dog was going round the well and was about to die out of thirst. A prostitute of Banu Israel happened to see it. So she took off her leather sock and lowered it into the well. She drew out some water and gave the dog to drink. She was forgiven on account of her action".
      1. This Hadith emphasizes the importance of kindness to every creature, even animals, because Allah is pleased with such kindness.
      2. Allah's Quality of mercy and forgiveness is immensely vast. If He wants He may forgive a person even on a minor good action done by him.
      Taken from Riyad-us-Salehin, Chapter 13

      A nice YouTube video on this hadith:

    • Ms. Foo Ju Ju: Hadith are narrations originating from the words and deeds of the Islamic prophet Muhammad. Hadith are regarded by traditional schools of jurisprudence as important tools for understanding the Quran and in matters of jurisprudence. Hadith were evaluated and gathered into large collections mostly during the reign of Umar bin Abdul Aziz during the 8th and 9th centuries. These works are referred to in matters of Islamic law and history to this day.

      Clearly the Hadith are very useful guides, but it has to be reminded that hadith are indeed not the word(s) of God. So to clarify any confusion that may arise, we need to interpret those hadith in the light of the Quran which is the word of God. There is no distinction whether a Muslim is Shi'te or Sunni, comes from any ethnic background as the Quran is the same, and has always been and read in its original text which is classical Arabic. The Quran does not have any contradiction thus providing more evidence that the Quran far outweighs any other "Islamic" text in terms of validity and logic.

    • Ok Foo's comment is still there, must be my computer or my sleepy eyes: GRIN, salamzzz & nitezzz

  7. "the strictest and the most orthodox is Syafiee, to which most Muslims in the Malay Archipelago adhere."

    Saya minta maaf, klu nilaikan pada ayat ats nie, memang boleh dikatakan mgkn banyak lagi yang awk xtau tentang agama…bg saya perkataan 'strictest' melambangkan kejahilan tentang mazhab dan 'orthodox' adalah satu penghinaan kepada ulama besar imam syafie…

  8. "the strictest and the most orthodox is Syafiee, to which most Muslims in the Malay Archipelago adhere."

    Saya minta maaf, klu nilaikan pada ayat ats nie, memang boleh dikatakan mgkn banyak lagi yang saudara xtau tentang agama…bg saya perkataan 'strictest' melambangkan kejahilan tentang mazhab dan 'orthodox' adalah satu penghinaan kepada ulama besar imam syafie…

  9. i know this is irrelevant
    but can i ask where you brought you salukis?

    i’m indonesian
    i love saluki but i can’t find where i can buy them
    i really want one for the longest time

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